Why State of the Union is 'leverage' in shutdown debate

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi requested President Trump’s State of the Union be postponed for safety reasons related to the shutdown, although the Department of Homeland Security countered it is able to handle the event. Meanwhile, President Trump met with a bipartisan group of lawmakers to negotiate, as another payroll deadline approaches. Judy Woodruff talks to Yamiche Alcindor and Lisa Desjardins.